Thursday, April 18, 2013

Quiz- where was this?


Lauriate Roly said...

The woman in that picture. Is she air-brushed into the shot, or is she just a giant? She's taller than the tram.

電波の世界 said...

I want to say St-James at Craig (back when they used to cross) and the 1947 Satellite view does correspond... but I'm not quite sure.

M. P. and I. said...

No! SHE is the right size, everything else has been shrunk.

Nice apparel for a rainy day, too!

BTW, this is 5PM week day rush hour before the Automobile took over.

The streetcar is an 'import' from the War years.

Thank You.

Chris 'Zeke' Hand said...


University and Saint Jacques. Victoria Tire was at 707 Saint James. It looks like where the Delta Centreville is now.

JM said...

The photographer is looking northeast from the corner of St. James West and Little Craig. Little Craig was a short one-block diagonal street connecting St. James with Craig. Until about 1953 it had streetcar tracks. The street itself eventually disappeared as University was extended southward.

The westbound streetcar in the photo was one of the ones bought second hand from the U.S. by the Montreal Tramways Company to augment their fleet during the Second World War. The cars were known for having leather upholstered seats instead of the usual rattan seats in Montreal streetcars.

MarkF said...

Lovell's (1935-36) shows a "Victoria Tire Sales" at 693 St. James St. W. - i.e. at/near Victoria Square.

UrbanLegend said...

Lovell's of 1955 has Victoria Tire Sales at 707 St. James West, which was then at the northeast corner with University.

The giveaway is the spire of St. Patrick's Church in the left background.

Intersection has been reconfigured since then.

emdx said...

Little Craig street jives, but not with the 1947 view:

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The Victoria Tire Sales garage was clearly not there in 1947 (but judging by the style, it doesn’t seem to date from the 1940’s, more like the 30’s); but you can see the checkered outside wall of the Railway Exchange Building, just left of the garage.

But other buildings completely jive with the air photographs.

(The Railway Exchange Building was torn down some 10-15 years ago when they built the new ICAO head office).

But a more telltale than the St-Patrick spire is the notched building, immediately left of the REB and below the spire, which was demolished 30 years ago to make way for the Banque Nationale tower.

mtc1streetcar said...

Victoria Tire was at the corner of Craig West where it swung down to end at St. James. Little St. Antoine St. was the complementary east side of that triangle, from where St. Antoine swung down to end at St. James. And this building clearly shows up in the 1947 aerial photo.

This picture appears here: as part of the Bill Volkmer collection, but without the giant ladies. The male figure walking east on St. James is in the original picture but the ladies have landed from Mars or Cyberland since the picture was taken. You can tell it was taken in the late 50s because the streetcar has the two fatal white sheets in the windows which were notices announcing the end of streetcar service and imminent bussification of the route, likely the 31 to the Belgrave loop in NDG. These ex-Springfield cars were often on this route.

UrbanLegend said...

Further analysis reveals that the photographer is facing east/northeast on St. James at the 45-degree angled corner of "Little Craig Street" which connects in the left background where the early-fifties automobile is visible facing east on Craig Street proper.

The 707 St. James, Victoria Tire Sales building with its rooftop parking has its two garage doors facing west onto "Little Craig". Note the blurred but still legible, peaked "B.F. Goodrich Tires" sign attached where the structure angles off.

To the east on St. James is the shorter Myers Building at address 685 with its two dormer-like, peaked structures on the roof. These "dormers" are also clearly visible on the 1947 aerial map.

Still further east on St. James is the well-known Keuffel & Esser drafting supplies Company at 679, and United Tire Supply is at 671.

In the far right background of the photo is the tall, still-existing Bank of Nova Scotia (now Scotiabank) building at 715 Victoria Square, which is today directly adjacent to the World Trade Centre at address 747.